ArthurClues:



I guess we're all entitled to our opinions, but if I have to say that analysis is way off in my opinion. More importantly I don’t  think any of the above would ever enter Arthur or Langley's minds. I went to the game and I can assure you that it wasn't as bad as it gets, in previous seasons it's been a lot, lot worse than that. All that said,8 we were very poor as judged against this seasons standards. It was obvious we're going to make it hard for ourselves when Miller managed to knock on at the play the ball because he was more interested in arguing with the opposition, and I thought Ash doubled down on that poor attitude throughout the first half. He's not usually prone to such petulance, but it summed up as a team  perfectly; hot, irritable, and lacking patience. Positives (there were some); we defended a load of Saints possession our line very well in sweltering heat  in the first half, Croft and Watkins really took on the line despite not being perfect, Lumb took his try well and did a great job with Feldt, and Lisone continued his excellent run of form. Onto Leigh next week, where I"m sure we'll be much, much better. We'll have to be.

tad rhino:

even the league table is seriously flawed because of the extra games

leeds owl:



That would have been a good gauge between 1974 and 1996 Simmo, but as Saints fans will testify, you can finish 10 points in front of a rival and lose to them when it matters and you’re consigned to the category of losers. Both of our theories are ultimately out of the window until play off time, lose to Saints then and previous results and league positions become irrelevant. 

YosemiteSam:



If all concerned are comfortable with the current structure of fixtures, and hence the resultant league table, then fine, but unless each team plays each other team the same amount of times, then in purist terms the league table has no integrity at all. 

Simmo71:



Yeh, fair enough OWL.
And we know that better than anyone.


The point I was making is that should we lose to Saints in a couple of weeks doesn't necessarily mean we are way behind them, as you had suggested.
The final league table (before the play offs) would be a better gauge of that.

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I didn’t say we would be way behind them if we go 1-3 for the season against Saints, but it would indicate to me they are a better team with a greater chance of silverware. They have had their travails this season, but when it came to a “must win” game against us, it was pretty conclusive despite the final score in The Challenge Cup. If we put in a real display against them in a few weeks and make it 2 apiece I would be encouraged that we  are a similar level of quality.  I think head to heads do indicate levels of quality, and to go 1-3 down against any team in a season would probably be a good indicator whoever we were playing.