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| TrinTrin:
We can beat Leeds, however, after we beat them the 1st time they took stock, they beat us by changing tactics, when we played the ball they initially knew we would pass quickly right or left & a ball player or kicker was 2nd or 3rd receiver, So, their tactic either side of play the ball rushed up. as early as possible to close us down &
Frustrate us, this caused us to be hemmed in & we began to panic & put the ball down or moves broke down due to clamping us in .
It is no secret that Leeds are to use this game as an early curser of play off intensity,
If we start off slow which is our usual norm + we don't change tactics on field to suit the game we will not win, Leeds will not fall into a/the trap of casual play,
We can beat them but it will be close & therefore be prepared for a very, very tough night/game.
"when we played the ball they initially knew we would pass quickly right or left & a ball player or kicker was 2nd or 3rd receiver" Wouldn't every team do this? | | |
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| 1315trinity:Pat_Bateman:Willzay:Trojan Horse:Willzay:Trojan Horse:1315trinity:Willzay:
Until Max stops bottling the high pressure games, he won’t be getting that England shirt.
Go on then, what exactly did Max 'bottle'? Crazy comment isn’t it. Max who was faultless under high ball and took every one under pressure even. Put in a cracking pass to send Walmsley in, cleared up danger a few times clearing the ball with pressure from oncoming chasers. Good defence and poked his nose through the line a few times running back. A display like that is more likely to get Wane to notice him. The way he moves players in defence and manages the line is excellent. It’s not a crazy comment. In high pressure games vs the Hull clubs and Saints he’s often lacked concentration in key points or missed an easy kick. Don’t get me wrong he’s a SL quality fullback but tonight his defence on the try line was weak, something that’d get even more exposed against the Aussies. Even commentators said it wasn’t Jowitt. Jowitt held O Connor up and covered ball at same time. What were the other two players doing? I feel it’s any excuse to jump on Max and there’s some ready to go in with the knives. He’s not going to go through the season faultless and even the best fullbacks in the NRL and SL done do that. It’s doesn’t stop them getting on the international scene but for Max it’s seemingly not okay for it to happen at all or it’s a big deal. Like I said I think Max is a SL quality fullback and he’s gone very well for this season, just that I can also see why Wane might not be picking him for England yet. Nothing to do with going with knives jeez. I don’t think Max is international class either, he’s not in the same league as Welsby in my opinion. I really like Max, I think he’s a cracking SL player and is the current top point scorer for a reason. However, I felt he did deserve a call up to the larger squad but obviously Wane sees it differently. I will be very very confident of seeing Johnstone and big Mike representing us in the ashes. You say he's a cracking SL player and did deserve a call up to the larger squad, but say he's not in the same league as Welsby?That's a tad strong I feel! We all have our opinions but keep them in proportion! If he deserves to be in the squad he can't be far behind Welsby ! FWIW I think Max is a better team player and prolific points scorer. Welsby is brilliant at doing individual plays. They're both top drawer I think. He is a cracking SL player, he did deserve a call up to the squad in my opinion, as after Welsby there isn’t a better english SL out and out FB in my opinion, whilst also been a world class kicker. Unfortunately there’s levels to anything in life, Max isn’t on the same level as Welsby, who’s clearly proven on the international stage. Just like Newman isn’t in the same universe as Farnworth, yet is still in the squad. As said previously by I think Poptart, he needs to show his class and actually dominate against the class teams ie KR, St’s Wigan. Welsby has won 4 grand finals, a world club challenge and captained his country by 23. I think in a nut shell Welsby is way ahead of max at FB, our international coach obviously thinks that too. | | | |
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| Maffy:The Avenger:
It’s taken on a bit more significance after Hull beat Wigan and Cas beat Warrington today!
Hull are at home vs Huddersfield next and I can’t see the Giants getting anything there and Warrington are home to Sts which will be a difficult game
Could not see shudds getting owt against Hull at magic but they did, 2 totally unpredictable teams, would not back either team with your money never mind mine, did you really expect them to beat Wigan yesterday ?, Wire lost again today and were lucky to beat Salford, hope they beat Saints and do us a big favour but I somehow doubt it. I did tell you, so unpredictable those 2, personally fwiw I think the officials at both the Hull games robbed us of 4 points but at least from a personal point of view shudds gave us a leg up. | | |
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| BarnsleyGull:Maffy:The Avenger:
It’s taken on a bit more significance after Hull beat Wigan and Cas beat Warrington today!
Hull are at home vs Huddersfield next and I can’t see the Giants getting anything there and Warrington are home to Sts which will be a difficult game
Could not see shudds getting owt against Hull at magic but they did, 2 totally unpredictable teams, would not back either team with your money never mind mine, did you really expect them to beat Wigan yesterday ?, Wire lost again today and were lucky to beat Salford, hope they beat Saints and do us a big favour but I somehow doubt it. Don't know how you can say that after they beat us and then the Pies..........As for Shudds, well after we rinsed them on Friday, they'll do well to win anymore games..... We lose at Hull then go to shudds and @r$ehole them shudds go to Hull and rinse them, you could not make it up, that's logic for you eh, tbh that' one game they've done well to win. | | |
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They've beaten them twice this season. So no fluke.
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Yep, didn’t see that one coming!
Well done the Giants done us a favour
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