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Can i just interupt the discussion here, and ask generally how come people post non rugby stuff like this on here, rather than using the dedicated off topic forum that rlfans has [url=http://viewforum.php?f=11&start=0THE SIN BIN[/url.
I'm not complaining, its just that in recent weeks there's been a resurgance of the OT/OTish(just imo, if it's a rugby league topic, even a non warrington one, you don't need to label it OT

) threads on here which we've let go rather than locking/re-directing.
it puzzles me slightly that we've got quite a few posters that do thrive on some of the more serious discussions and there's a pretty good resource for doing it with other likeminded people, rather than filling up this place.
Likewise with the other sports forums. Don't be affraid, dip your toe in, thats what they're there for after all.