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I'm surprised by everybody on here saying they think the Murphy yellow was correct. I have a sneaking suspicion that had it been the other way around, you'd be furious. For a start, Murphy isn't "the tackler" so rules about tackling don't apply. Saints were in possession, so he's the attacker. We see attackers go in with their knees out etc pretty much every charge. That said, the rules for tackling or carrying the ball aren't relevant anyway, as it was a contest in the air for the ball. It was a completely fair contest, both had eyes on the ball, nothing wrong with it whatsoever. When you jump, you stick your knee out for leverage. Watch literally any game of rugby back and see it happen multiple times a game, pretty much every single time anybody jumps for the ball... That's how you jump! Murphy has been penalised for A) Being able to jump high and B) for Edgell not bothering to jump at all, which is patently ridiculous. Particularly it's obviously not Murphy's fault that Edgell didn't even bother to attempt to contest the ball, nor is that something he can predict when he jumps. If Edgell leaves the ground at all, then the head contact can't possibly happen. What's even more ridiculous is that had he caught the ball, he'd probably have been AWARDED the penalty for being tackled in the air. Think the ruling was positively stupid. A contest in the air will always have elements of risk, and if these things are going to be called then you may as well just ban jumping for the ball. To me, this is in line with the Nu Brown red card incident last year. Yes, there is contact with the head but it's pretty clear it's nobody's fault and doesn't need punishment as it's a "rugby league incident" ie something that can just happen by playing the sport.
That said, don't wanna harp on it too much as I don't think it effected the result of the game. I originally came here to congratulate you on your win which was very much deserved as I thought you were by far the better team for the majority of the game and should have been way more than 10-0 up at HT. As much fun as it is to enjoy the misfortune of rival clubs, I'm actually happy to see you guys moving in the right direction. I'd prefer all of our big clubs to be firing on all cylinders as that's whats going to lead to a better comp and more exciting seasons. Not looking likely now, but would be great if you could keep hold of Arthur for a few more years.
Nah, if it had been a Leeds player i would think the same and be annoyed at them, calling it a ‘rugby league incident’ is a cop out, jumping with your knees first (he totally missed the ball by the way) is reckless. Do I think he intentionally kneed him in the head, no, but that’s the same with 99% of any head shots. Yellow was correct. Wilkins take that it was Alfie’s fault because it was a ‘pathetic attempt at a jump’ was ridiculous, and Jenna Brooks was no better when interviewing Wellens. Jumping with your knees first isn't reckless though, it's what 90% of people jumping for the ball do... Seriously you can watch any game of RL back and see it happen multiple times in every single one of them. He also hasn't been charged with anything by the MRP, which also suggest that he didn't break any laws. They're not exactly shy of charging our players, either 99% of tacklers use their shoulders aswell, doesn't mean you can use it to hit someones head, accidentally or not. The MRP not charging him doesn’t mean the yellow card was incorrect. | | |
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Is anyone else fed up with the referee telling the attacking player to get up rather than pinging the defending player for holding on?
I dislike the constant coaching and giving players chances too rather than pinging them.
If I was Arthur, I would tell our players when defending to lay behind the player playing the ball to slow the ruck down as the referees are now happy for players to do so. If we can cause the dummy half to take 1-2 seconds longer each play the ball to pass, then it’ll drastically help us.
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On the Murphy yellow card, it was an accident , however the problem
For Murphy was he was in mid air when he knocked on and bending backwards. He was also slowed down by his knee hitting Edgell in the head , so he got it wrong by a fair margin and was
Jumping ahead of the ball and took out the receiver in the head. Yes it was a”rugby incident” rather than a
Deliberate foul but he got
His timing wrong, so a definite penalty . What is a yellow, red or nothing is a bit of a lottery in each game but once Thaler started getting into his can you slow
It down and
Show me it from 3 different angles routine, Murphy was in bother.
Glad We Finally beat saints , think we are now 2 Wins in the last 19 games, so it was overdue. We did our best to lose it again but showed some good signs. I liked the Sinfield drop goal, smart lad. He’s got the potential to be a Harry Smith type. To work he needs some real pace in the spine, ala Field and French. We
Don’t have a magic player like French , or any real pace at FB so need to temper expectations on Sinfield but I think he’s on the up.
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Great win against a team we have a really poor record against from the last few years. I really like Watkins at 13, thought he looked great alongside Palasia and Mik in the FR. I might be wrong on this, but did Jenkins only come on towards the end? Wonder whether he was carrying a knock.
There's clearly a mixed view on the yellow, but the reality is the refereeing of the game was absolute garbage aside from this. The ruck is so unbelievably slow, teams are not rewarded for winning the collision, and refs need to get a hold of it. It completely ruins the spectacle. The worst one was when Mik played the ball near the line, and Walmsley was lying in the ruck. You could hear the ref telling him to play the ball, and then penalised him for an incorrect PTB. Literally ridiculous!!!
I watched an interview with Peter Vlandys while he was in Vegas, he talked about how the main focus of the NRL is bringing entertainment to fans. SL seem to have the opposite agenda. They're so focussed on being pedantic over every single call, minor head know, minor crusher that never results in injury, obscene video ref interventions, they completely ruin the spectacle.
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Jumping with your knees first isn't reckless though, it's what 90% of people jumping for the ball do... Seriously you can watch any game of RL back and see it happen multiple times in every single one of them. He also hasn't been charged with anything by the MRP, which also suggest that he didn't break any laws. They're not exactly shy of charging our players, either I don't actually believe murphy was watching the ball or jumped for the ball. He jumped beyond the ball which h missed and landed behind him. He jumped to put the catcher off. Edgell was in position and about to jump by the looks of his stance. If he' have jumped earlier he would have been coming down before catching the ball which came down noticably after Murphy had made contact with Edgell. | | | |
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